April 24, 2006 - 21:32
Man and 12-year-old girl charged with murder of southeastern Alberta
family
MEDICINE HAT, Alta. (CP) - A 12-year-old girl and a 23-year-old man
were arrested in Saskatchewan early Monday and each charged with three
counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of a southeastern Alberta
family.
RCMP, acting on a tip, arrested the pair in Leader, Sask., about two
hours from this quiet community, which has been rocked by the weekend
slayings. "We don't know the relationship between the two, we believe
they are acquaintances," Sgt. Dave Townsend of the Medicine Hat Police
Service told a packed news conference.
"All I know is they were arrested without incident."
Jeremy Allan Steinke, 23, and the girl had a bail hearing in Swift
Current, Sask., and were being transferred back to Medicine Hat, where
they could be in court as early as Tuesday, police said.
Police say Steinke is known to authorities but gave no other details.
Investigators are being tight-lipped about what triggered the slayings
of a middle-aged man, his wife and 10-year-old son. The bodies were
discovered Sunday afternoon when a playmate arrived at the beige
split-level to visit the boy and saw what he believed was a body
through the window.
The child ran home to tell his mother, who called police.
"I think the officers have a very good assumption of what the motive
might have been, but we have to hold on to that right now to make sure
we don't jeopardize the investigation," said Townsend.
Under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, the girl cannot be identified.
However, neighbours say a young girl in Grade 7 lived with the family,
who had moved to Medicine Hat from Ottawa.
Townsend said it will be several days before all forensic evidence is
gathered from the crime scene. Tips from children and adults have been
pouring in to investigators.
He said police are as surprised as residents over the killings.
"We are as shocked as they are," said Townsend. "It's a devastating
crime. Unfortunately it happened within our community. But we believe
we have the individuals in custody."
Yellow police tape blocked off the home in the quiet neighbourhood as
forensic investigators worked inside the home Monday. The bodies were
expected to be removed and sent to Calgary for autopsies.
At the nearby elementary school where the boy attended, flags were
lowered to half-mast.
Reporters were turned away, but grief counsellors were being made
available to help the boy's young classmates and teachers deal with the
tragedy.
That aid, which will also be available in the coming days, is also
being extended to any parents who want it.
The cordoned-off home is located in an established Medicine Hat
neighbourhood that seems the essence of small town pleasantry, where
stay-at-home moms mingle with seniors and someone answered almost every
door on a sunny morning.
Phyllis Gehring, who knew the family, choked back tears, noting that
the family was very quiet and that she never heard a harsh word between
the parents.
She said the mother had expressed delight that the lower cost of living
in Alberta made it possible for her to stay home with her family.
Police are still seeking a 1987 Dodge Dakota truck, with an Alberta
license plate UCG 406 they believe is linked to the case.
http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/news/shownews.jsp?content=n0424119A#
April 24, 2006 - 21:32
Man and 12-year-old girl charged with murder of southeastern Alberta
family
MEDICINE HAT, Alta. (CP) - A 12-year-old girl and a 23-year-old man
were arrested in Saskatchewan early Monday and each charged with three
counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of a southeastern Alberta
family.
RCMP, acting on a tip, arrested the pair in Leader, Sask., about two
hours from this quiet community, which has been rocked by the weekend
slayings. "We don't know the relationship between the two, we believe
they are acquaintances," Sgt. Dave Townsend of the Medicine Hat Police
Service told a packed news conference.
"All I know is they were arrested without incident."
Jeremy Allan Steinke, 23, and the girl had a bail hearing in Swift
Current, Sask., and were being transferred back to Medicine Hat, where
they could be in court as early as Tuesday, police said.
Police say Steinke is known to authorities but gave no other details.
Investigators are being tight-lipped about what triggered the slayings
of a middle-aged man, his wife and 10-year-old son. The bodies were
discovered Sunday afternoon when a playmate arrived at the beige
split-level to visit the boy and saw what he believed was a body
through the window.
The child ran home to tell his mother, who called police.
"I think the officers have a very good assumption of what the motive
might have been, but we have to hold on to that right now to make sure
we don't jeopardize the investigation," said Townsend.
Under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, the girl cannot be identified.
However, neighbours say a young girl in Grade 7 lived with the family,
who had moved to Medicine Hat from Ottawa.
Townsend said it will be several days before all forensic evidence is
gathered from the crime scene. Tips from children and adults have been
pouring in to investigators.
He said police are as surprised as residents over the killings.
"We are as shocked as they are," said Townsend. "It's a devastating
crime. Unfortunately it happened within our community. But we believe
we have the individuals in custody."
Yellow police tape blocked off the home in the quiet neighbourhood as
forensic investigators worked inside the home Monday. The bodies were
expected to be removed and sent to Calgary for autopsies.
At the nearby elementary school where the boy attended, flags were
lowered to half-mast.
Reporters were turned away, but grief counsellors were being made
available to help the boy's young classmates and teachers deal with the
tragedy.
That aid, which will also be available in the coming days, is also
being extended to any parents who want it.
The cordoned-off home is located in an established Medicine Hat
neighbourhood that seems the essence of small town pleasantry, where
stay-at-home moms mingle with seniors and someone answered almost every
door on a sunny morning.
Phyllis Gehring, who knew the family, choked back tears, noting that
the family was very quiet and that she never heard a harsh word between
the parents.
She said the mother had expressed delight that the lower cost of living
in Alberta made it possible for her to stay home with her family.
Police are still seeking a 1987 Dodge Dakota truck, with an Alberta
license plate UCG 406 they believe is linked to the case.
http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/news/shownews.jsp?content=n0424119A#
I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
scooter34
scooter34 wrote:
> I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
> Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
>
> scooter34
You nailed it! annie
Girl, 12, and boyfriend charged in triple slaying
Tuesday, April 25, 2006
Monday began with elementary school students holding hands and praying
for their third grade classmate slain with his parents.
The day ended with Arthur Richardson lamenting the loss of his son,
daughter-in-law and grandson in a grisly triple homicide.
"They were good church people," said Marc Richardson's father, Arthur
Richardson, from his Sudbury, Ont., home.
It was a day packed with high drama that saw first-degree murder
charges laid against a 12-year-old girl and her 23-year-old boyfriend.
The city is reeling with the triple slaying of a family discovered
Sunday -- Marc, 41, his wife Debra, and son, Jacob.
"This is the very happy home of the Richardsons," Debra's cheery voice
chimes to callers on the family's telephone greeting.
That happy home turned into a gruesome crime scene Sunday afternoon. A
neighbourhood playmate of Jacob came to call on his friend but instead
saw a body through the window.
Hours later, Canada-wide warrants were issued for the Grade 7 girl and
Jeremy Allan Steinke, who is known to police in Medicine Hat.
The runaway pair was arrested by Leader, Sask., RCMP on Monday at 8
a.m. They were held in Swift Current and had a bail hearing the same
day.
They were transferred to Medicine Hat on Monday night and are to appear
in provincial court this morning.
The triple homicide has devastated Marc's father, who says his son was
ready to start his own repair business.
Marc had bought a white truck just days ago. It sits in the family
driveway with the driver's side window smashed out.
"He was so happy. He was just starting out."
Marc and Debra Richardson were married 15 years ago in Toronto. The
two, both still athletic, met at the gym.
Even after 15 years of marriage, the couple were "really in love."
Marc loved his motorcycles and repairing bikes.
"That was one of his first jobs," the father said. "He went in for an
apprenticeship. One day, he said, 'I want a job' so he went back to
school."
The father said his son used to work for EnCana and was very handy and
skilled in multiple trades.
He was a talented mechanic and welder, but he also used to spend his
time cruising yard sales for computers he could take home and repair.
"He had lots of friends; he was very loved," Richardson added. "He was
a very easygoing guy."
Debra, a stay-at-home mom, signed up for a course on small businesses a
couple months ago, and was hoping to start up her own company, but "she
never had the chance."
He remembers his young grandson from a visit to Medicine Hat two years
ago.
"He was bubbly. He was always trying something; he always had a big
smile," he said.
"It's not easy," Richardson said.
The triple slaying has also been hard on the neighbours, mainly parents
and seniors.
Phylis Gehring has lived on the corner of the well-manicured Cameron
Road for 20 years.
The Richardsons moved next door during September 2003. They moved from
Okotoks, where they had lived for five years before that.
On Saturday night, she watched Marc fire up the family barbecue on his
back porch.
By Sunday afternoon, her neighbours' home was surrounded by police
cars, sniffer dogs and yellow crime scene tape.
The sounds of young Jacob playing hockey in his backyard bright and
early before walking down the road to school were frequent.
"We were forever picking up balls from our yard. This is what really
hurts; we won't be doing that anymore," she said.
"I'm going to miss that terribly."
Most of the residents up and down the block knew the family to wave
hello to.
"You wonder, why this family? A kid's life taken away from him for
what?" Gehring asked. "All I know is that they're gone. It's going to
be very, very different around here."
As the seventh grader was being charged with first-degree murder, her
St. Mary's School junior high friends were heading to class.
"I'm feeling really sad, she's one of my closest friends," said a
classmate.
The 12-year-old, who cannot be named under terms of the Youth Criminal
Justice Act, is a good student, she said, earning marks in the 80s and
above.
About a month and a half ago, the pre-teen started to change, she said.
Her well-scrubbed look turned to goth with dark eyeliner and black nail
polish, she said.
That wasn't the only change -- the 12-year-old began dating a
23-year-old man who drove around town in a pickup truck.
"All I want is her back."
The classmate's mother, Jody, says rumours of the 12-year-old girl and
the grown man courting on the Internet terrify her.
"You talk to your kids and show them movies," Jody said. "The Internet
needs to be policed better."
Steinke's parents divorced when he and his sister were young children,
said a relative who didn't want to be named.
He stayed with his mother and sister in Medicine Hat while his father,
Glenn Steinke, returned to Saskatchewan, where the bulk of the Steinke
clan reside.
Twenty-four Steinkes appear in a recent family photo. Jeremy Allan
Steinke stands in the back row, third from the left, with dark blondish
hair. He's about the height of his father, roughly five foot 10.
Steinke's father declined to comment Monday, as did the 23-year-old's
grandparents, who also live in Saskatchewan.
Tips from the public helped lead police to the suspects, said Medicine
Hat RCMP Sgt. David Townsend.
E/C Annie wrote in message
news:1145986227.380157.39930@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> scooter34 wrote:
>
> > I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
> > Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
> >
> > scooter34
>
> You nailed it! annie
>
> Girl, 12, and boyfriend charged in triple slaying
>
I wonder what the laws in Canada are concerning a 23 year old man *dating* a
twelve year old girl? What a tragedy this is.
td
E/C Annie wrote in message
news:1145986227.380157.39930@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> scooter34 wrote:
>
> > I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
> > Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
> >
> > scooter34
>
> You nailed it! annie
>
> Girl, 12, and boyfriend charged in triple slaying
>
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=d7b6d9f3-4f6e-40f3-a93c-e359cd9d1a88
I wonder what the laws in Canada are concerning a 23 year old man *dating* a
twelve year old girl? What a tragedy this is.
td
The 12-year-old, who cannot be named under terms of the Youth Criminal
Justice Act, is a good student, she said, earning marks in the 80s and
above.
About a month and a half ago, the pre-teen started to change, she said.
Her well-scrubbed look turned to goth with dark eyeliner and black nail
polish, she said.
That wasn't the only change -- the 12-year-old began dating a
23-year-old man who drove around town in a pickup truck.
"All I want is her back."
The classmate's mother, Jody, says rumours of the 12-year-old girl and
the grown man courting on the Internet terrify her.
"You talk to your kids and show them movies," Jody said. "The Internet
needs to be policed better."
On 25 Apr 2006 10:30:27 -0700, E/C Annie wrote:
<snip>
>The 12-year-old, who cannot be named under terms of the Youth Criminal
>Justice Act, is a good student, she said, earning marks in the 80s and
>above.
>
>About a month and a half ago, the pre-teen started to change, she said.
>Her well-scrubbed look turned to goth with dark eyeliner and black nail
>polish, she said.
>
>That wasn't the only change -- the 12-year-old began dating a
>23-year-old man who drove around town in a pickup truck.
>
>"All I want is her back."
>
>The classmate's mother, Jody, says rumours of the 12-year-old girl and
>the grown man courting on the Internet terrify her.
>
>"You talk to your kids and show them movies," Jody said. "The Internet
>needs to be policed better."
<snip>
Am I the only person who wonders where the hell this girl's parents
were in all this? It's not that the Internet needs to be "policed"
better, it's that some of this so-called parents need to get a clue
and keep a closer eye on what their kids are doing. Why in the hell
didn't they put a stop to their 12 year old "dating" a 23 year old
long before it ever got to this stage? =(
Regards,
ravinwulf
ravinwulf wrote in message
news:dios42lovri3sng4ep0egmdd436172p8mj@4ax.com...
> On 25 Apr 2006 10:30:27 -0700, E/C Annie wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >The 12-year-old, who cannot be named under terms of the Youth Criminal
> >Justice Act, is a good student, she said, earning marks in the 80s and
> >above.
> >
> >About a month and a half ago, the pre-teen started to change, she said.
> >Her well-scrubbed look turned to goth with dark eyeliner and black nail
> >polish, she said.
> >
> >That wasn't the only change -- the 12-year-old began dating a
> >23-year-old man who drove around town in a pickup truck.
> >
> >"All I want is her back."
> >
> >The classmate's mother, Jody, says rumours of the 12-year-old girl and
> >the grown man courting on the Internet terrify her.
> >
> >"You talk to your kids and show them movies," Jody said. "The Internet
> >needs to be policed better."
>
> <snip>
>
> Am I the only person who wonders where the hell this girl's parents
> were in all this? It's not that the Internet needs to be "policed"
> better, it's that some of this so-called parents need to get a clue
> and keep a closer eye on what their kids are doing. Why in the hell
> didn't they put a stop to their 12 year old "dating" a 23 year old
> long before it ever got to this stage? =(
>
> Regards,
> ravinwulf
It depends upon the 12 year old. Perhaps they tried and she resisted, like
a couple others we've read about here in the past year. Some 12 year olds,
parents can talk to, ground, restrict. While others lie, sneak out and
rebel violently. I'd guess this one is a liar/sneak/rebel. After all, she
participated in the killing of her parents and brother. So I'm surmising
she wasn't one of the ones who would agreeably comply with the parents
rules.
I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
scooter34
As this is happening in a city not far away from Calgary (where I live)
Girl on slay rap
Mom, dad, brother killed in home
By BILL LAYE AND NADIA MOHARIB, SUN MEDIA
MEDICINE HAT -- A 12-year-old girl -- along with her 23-year-old
boyfriend -- are charged with the horrific murder of her family.
Mounties arrested the girl and Jeremy Allan Steinke, 23, on Canada-wide
arrest warrants yesterday in Leader, Sask., and charged them with the
first-degree murders of the girl's mom, dad and younger brother.
The names of the dead family can't be reported under the Youth Criminal
Justice Act because it would identify the accused girl.
After a court appearance in Swift Current, they were taken to Medicine
Hat last night.
Friends of the Grade 7 girl said she had recently turned "goth" after
meeting Steinke on a website dedicated to goth and vampire lifestyles.
Friends say her family was furious at the relationship and neighbours
heard loud fighting at the home recently.
Police were called to the home Sunday afternoon.
Police haven't said how the family was slain. Sources said they were
stabbed.
Sun sources also said the accused man and the teen allegedly bragged to
friends Sunday morning about the triple slayings.
The girl was known as a smart student.
"Then she turned goth, punk and I don't know why," said Tide Racz, 13,
who knew the girl for three years, since the family moved West from
Ottawa.
http://torontosun.com/News/Canada/2006/04/25/1549366-sun.html
Recklessly refusing to invoke the Fifth Amendment, on 25 Apr 2006
08:21:18 -0700, scooter34 wrote:
>I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
>Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
>
>scooter34
If Romeo had also been 12, you might have an apt analogy.
I'm calling "family trying to keep their 12-year-old daughter away
from a 23-year-old man and vice-versa and getting slaughtered for
their efforts".
ronnie
Girl, 12, and boyfriend charged in triple slaying
Tuesday, April 25, 2006
The classmate's mother, Jody, says rumours of the 12-year-old girl and
the grown man courting on the Internet terrify her.
"You talk to your kids and show them movies," Jody said. "The Internet
needs to be policed better."
ronniecat wrote:
Recklessly refusing to invoke the Fifth Amendment, on 25 Apr 2006
08:21:18 -0700, scooter34 wrote:
>I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
>Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
>
>scooter34
If Romeo had also been 12, you might have an apt analogy.
I'm calling "family trying to keep their 12-year-old daughter away
from a 23-year-old man and vice-versa and getting slaughtered for
their efforts".
ronnie
I'm sorry - I should clarify. I meant from their perspective, not a
sane one.
scooter34
Ah - sorry :)
ronnie
On 25 Apr 2006 11:51:23 -0700, scooter34 promised to tell the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth but instead wrote:
>
>ronniecat wrote:
>> Recklessly refusing to invoke the Fifth Amendment, on 25 Apr 2006
>> 08:21:18 -0700, scooter34 wrote:
>>
>> >I'm calling "star-crossed lovers separated by interfering adults".
>> >Didn't anyone ever read Romeo and Juliet?
>> >
>> >scooter34
>>
>> If Romeo had also been 12, you might have an apt analogy.
>>
>> I'm calling "family trying to keep their 12-year-old daughter away
>> from a 23-year-old man and vice-versa and getting slaughtered for
>> their efforts".
>>
>> ronnie
>
>I'm sorry - I should clarify. I meant from their perspective, not a
>sane one.
>
>scooter34
Ah - sorry :)
ronnie
E/C Annie wrote in message
news:1145986227.380157.39930@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Girl, 12, and boyfriend charged in triple slaying
Tuesday, April 25, 2006
[...]
The classmate's mother, Jody, says rumours of the 12-year-old girl and
the grown man courting on the Internet terrify her.
"You talk to your kids and show them movies," Jody said. "The Internet
needs to be policed better."
[...]
**ARGH!!!**
Jody needs a kick in the arse, a thump on the head, and someone to
disconnect all the machines in her house and haul them away. She obviously
doesn't get it.
</peeve>
--Threnody